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Additional Manuscripts b Lang, Andrew (1844–1912) anthropologist
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Copy letter from A. Lang to J. G. Frazer

1 Marloes Road, Kensington, W. Dated April 21 - Thanks him for reading the draft of an unidentified text ['Modern Mythology'?]; mentions the mouse and Apollo, thinks exogamy is only part of the general totem taboo.

Copy letter from A. Lang to J. G. Frazer

1 Marloes Road, Kensington, W. Dated June 22, 1895 - Refers to a sacrifice being commuted; a 'regular' fire walk in Bulgaria; mentions sulfuric acid 'would do it': this from [Edward] Clodd, who heard it from Sir R. Richardson.

Copy letter from A. Lang to J. G. Frazer

1 Marloes Road, Kensington, W. Dated April 20 - Two line letter instructing Frazer to note the dedication of an unidentified text, and says 'Max [Müller?] has pinned Oscar of Sweden a usurper'.

Copy letter from A. Lang to J. G. Frazer

1 Marloes Road, Kensington, W. Dated May 9 - Suggests Miss Kingsley for something in Frazer's 'totem line'; dropped Max [Müller's?] Icelandic and wrote a new introduction for an unidentified work.

Copy letter from A. W. Howitt to J. G. Frazer

Clovelly, Metung, Victoria. Dated 22 April, 1902 - Is sending a copy of a chapter of his book and asks for his comments; is living in a cottage at the Gippsland Lakes, and is happy to think he has a duplicate if fire strikes his cottage; hopes to finish 'Native Tribes of South Eastern Australia' by the end of this year; hears that [Baldwin] Spencer is looking well after his return from his expedition; is waiting for [Andrew] Lang's 'Magic and Realism' before saying anything; a recent letter from Lang did not mention the dispute with E. S. Hartland.

Copy letter from A. W. Howitt to J. G. Frazer

Clovelly, Metung, Victoria. Dated 2 April, 1906 - Thanks him for 'Lectures on the Early History of the Kingship'; has been busy as Chairman of a Royal Commission in the Coal Industry but will take notice of [Andrew] Lang's 'Search of the Totem', has a reply ready to send off as to the 'pirrauru', the undivided commune, his attack on Frazer and himself, and other matters; [Baldwin] Spencer will join in when he has time; asks Frazer to help distribute 500 copies of his letter to members of Anthropological societies, journals and newspaper; May is in Melbourne with him and they express their thanks for their kindness during their visit to Cambridge; [Lorimer] Fison is slightly better but unable to do any mental work; Spencer is well but Howitt fears he is overworking himself.

Copy letter from Daisy M. Bates to J. G. Frazer

Karrekatta Club, Perth W.A. Dated 21/12/11 - As he has quoted her paper to the Royal Geographical Society of Australasia in his 'Totemism' she writes with corrections, concerning the descent of the borungur in the South Western district, with more information about the Northern people as well; has sent her manuscript to Andrew Lang; has been involved in much aboriginal research work since she wrote this paper.

Copy letter from E. Sidney Hartland to J. G. Frazer

Highgarth, Gloucester. Dated 12 January 1913 - Sends him a MS by Andrew Lang of the book on totemism and exogamy that he never published [not transcribed], is proposing to publish one chapter of it, but wants Frazer's approval. A typescript note at bottom states 'Frazer's reply to this letter has not been preserved.'

Copy letter from E. Sidney Hartland to J. G. Frazer

Highgate [recte Highgarth], Gloucester. Dated 20 September 1901 - Has been away and asks what Frazer knows about [George McCall] Theal's 'Records of South-Eastern Africa' quoted in his article for 'Man'; hears from [Alfred] Haddon that Frazer had gone to Germany to see a doctor about his eyes; has read [Andrew] Lang's attack on GB, but thinks GB is not harmed by it.

Copy letter from E. Sidney Hartland to J. G. Frazer

Highgarth, Gloucester. Dated 15 January 1913 - Thanks him for his letter, is sending [Andrew Lang's] MS to [F. A.] Milne; had no idea that Frazer felt Lang had made an open insinuation of his honesty in an article in 'Fortnightly' and deplores their misunderstanding.

Copy letter from E. Sidney Hartland to J. G. Frazer

Highgate [recte Highgarth], Gloucester. Dated 23 September, 1901 - Doesn't feel they have enough evidence to say what the origin of totemism is; doesn't see a clear line between magic and religion; mentions Baldwin Spencer's letter which points in favour of Frazer's theory; asks if he has read [Jesse] Fewkes' article on the Owakülti Altar at Sichomovi Pueblo; agrees with Frazer about [Andrew] Lang's use of [Alfred] Howitt and [Henry] Roth; is surprised to hear the story about [E. B.] Tylor wishing to supress a chapter in Spencer and Gillen's book; agrees with Frazer about [Frank] Jevons' difficulty because he generalized too soon; will write to [George] Theal.

Copy letter from E. Sidney Hartland to J. G. Frazer

Highgate [recte Highgarth], Gloucester. Dated 21 April 1901 - Sends [Frank] Jevons' article [not transcribed]; says not to worry about [E. B.] Tylor, who is immersed in his Gifford Lectures; is glad [Franz] Cumont sent the note [about the Acts of St Dasius], is amused [Andrew] Lang misunderstands others despite complaining that others misunderstand him.

Copy letter from Edw. Clodd to J. G. Frazer

Strafford House, Aldeburgh, Suffolk. Dated 10/7/10 - Describes his travels: particularly enjoyed Rothenberg, and cities in southern Spain; sent one of his copies of 'Totemism' to Sir Hugh Clifford; his review in the 'Nation' contained discussion of the sub-incision to stop procreation but was censored; hears [N. W.] Thomas will review the book in 'Folk-Lore'; promises to not send any more letters from [Andrew] Lang, but defends him as lacking malice; Clifford said he enjoyed 'Adonis, Attis' and would like them to meet.

Copy letter from Edw. Clodd to J. G. Frazer

Strafford House, Aldeburgh, Suffolk. Dated 12/3/11 - Thanks him for the new instalment of 'The Golden Bough', third edition; has written an article on 'Totemism' for the 'Quarterly' and has given his opinion that Andrew Lang's theories are more satisfactory than others.

Copy letter from Edw. Clodd to J. G. Frazer

Strafford House, Aldeburgh, Suffolk. Dated 21/3/13 - Thanks him for ['The Belief in Immortality'] and suggests another map of the land of shades, and cites Duncan MacDougall's work on the weight of the soul in a book by Edward Carpenter; suggests he meet Sir Mortimer Durand while he visits, an authority on Oriental customs and ideas; was pleased to see his tribute to [Andrew] Lang.

Copy letter from F. A. Milne to J. G. Frazer

Folk-Lore Society, 11 Old Square, Lincolns Inn. Dated January 13th, 1913 - E. S. Hartland will be forwarding an MS on totemism by the late Andrew Lang; it is not to be published; Mrs Lang has been persuaded that the chapter on Totemic Exogamy could be published on its own, only if Hartland and Frazer (as representing the opposing views) both agree that it is suitable for publication.

Copy letter from J. G. Frazer to E. S. Hartland

Inch-ma-home, Cambridge. Dated 2 April, 1901 - Agrees with his view of avoiding controversy; thanks him for the reminder of the cases of prayer among the Dieri [reported by Alfred Howitt], and for his distinction between religion and worship; does not think, and neither does [Franz] Cumont that there is reason to doubt the Acts of St Dasius; admits he has not read Grant Allen's 'The Evolution of the Idea of God'; obtained information on the survivals of paganism from Miss Roma Lister, who helped [Charles] Leland collect folklore; offers notes to counter [Andrew] Lang's 'last tirade against me in the "Fortnightly"', including an exaggeration of a disagreement with [Theodor] Nöldeke, but is inclined to think Lang right in saying that the Crucifixion even on Frazer's theory would not have contributed to the deification of Christ and will strike that out in a new edition, and asks his opinion.

Copy letter from J. G. Frazer to E. S. Hartland

Inch-ma-home, Cambridge. Dated 19 April, 1901 - [Franz] Cumont sent a copy of a defense of the Acts of St Dasius; regrets that [Andrew] Lang is publishing a book and has not been in contact since writing the 'Fortnightly' articles; he had not heard of [F. B.] Jevons' article, and notes that [E. B.] Tylor hasn't written to acknowledge the book Frazer sent; could not vouch for Miss Lister's information; there is no need to say anything in print about his review.

Copy letter from J. G. Frazer to E. S. Hartland

Inch-ma-home, Cambridge. Dated 18 March, 1901 - Thanks him for his letter; have returned from Italy; Baldwin Spencer says the expedition with [Francis] Gillen has been delayed due to drought and Frazer asks [Andrew] Lang to pray for rain; has a paper from E. Tregear on animistic notions of the Maoris re: the sweet potato.

Copy letter from J. G. Frazer to E. S. Hartland

Trinity College, Cambridge. Dated 22 September, 1901 - Agrees that they should get [George McCall] Theal's authority for South African totemism, asks Hartland to write as he abhors correspondence, especially with a stranger; has had letters from Baldwin Spencer on the totemism of the Kaitish, and his [and Alfred Howitt's] dislike of [Andrew] Lang's use of Howitt's statements; Frazer believes that [Henry] Roth feels the same way about Lang's use of his writings; Frazer has not read Lang's book but has found him obtuse on the subject of Spencer and Gillen's writings, and [E. B.] Tylor went so far as to suggest to George Macmillan that the chapter of 'intichima ceremonies' be curtailed, to which Frazer strenously objected; benefited from his visit to Wiesbaden to see [Hermann] Pagenstecher about his eyes; thanks him for the [F. B.] Jevons articles on the science of religion, finds that the discovery that totemism is probably not a religion but a system of magic has badly affected his argument, was aware of the blows he was giving Jevons' arguments when he wrote his articles on totemism.

Copy letter from J. G. Frazer to R. R. Marett

St Keyne's, Cambridge. Dated 14 August 1912 - Would like to contribute to a volume in Andrew Lang's memory; Lang's death came as a complete surprise, thought the obituary he read hardly noticed his poetry and light humorous prose, which he thinks should have been his real vocation.

Copy letter from James Hope Moulton to J. G. Frazer

3 Queen Anne Terrace, Cambridge. Dated 1.3.02 - Is troubled that Frazer should feel 'discouraged and disheartened' by critics; [Andrew] Lang is 'a mere dilettante anthropologist'; assures him that he has opened a new world of knowledge; has simply cut out the reference to Barabbas.

Copy letter from James Hope Moulton to J. G. Frazer

Didsbury College, Manchester. Dated 7th Oct., 1913 - Thanks him again for books, notes that 'Psyche's Task' is a good answer to Andrew Lang, 'who had a book published by the Rationalist Press Association, and then attacked you for impiety!'; is to be visited by Professor Thumb, from Strasbourg, and recommends attending his lecture in Cambridge.

Copy letter from John S. Black to J. G. Frazer

Adam and Charles Black Publishers, Number 4, Soho Square, London W. Dated 1st April 1901 - Thanks him for his note, which will be printed, is showing it to [Thomas] Cheyne first; [Andrew] Lang is 'clearly greatly exercised' about G.B.2; he is glad to hear about plans for a G.B.3; has a letter from [Paul Wilhelm] Schmiedel, who writes that it is the time of his condemnation and that the refusal of his reason will come later; is glad [William] Ridgeway's first volume ['The Early Age of Greece'?] is about to appear.

Copy letter from R. J. Drummond to J. G. Frazer

Duke's Bungalow, Belgravia, Talawakelle, Ceylon. Dated 22 Nov. 1901 - Provides more information on water 'cut' from the river at sunrise; also sent a copy of the letter on Yantra-gals to Andrew Lang, who had it published; notes the necklaces and charms covering the nipples and vulva worn by Tamil girls; wonders why Tamils put a ring on the 2nd toe when getting married.

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