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Letters to J. R. M. Butler
Add. MS c/201/7-16 · Item · 1914-41
Part of Additional Manuscripts c

8 letters and 2 fragments of letters, from:

  • Ramsay Macdonald, 6 Mar. 1914
  • James Balfour, 8 Jan. 1920
  • Lord Haldane, 4 May 1924
  • E. Rutherford, 20 June 1925, accepting congratulations for his Order of Merit
  • Albert, the future George VI, 26 Apr. 1926, accepting congratulations on the birth of his daughter Elizabeth
  • Lord Cecil, 9 Sept. 1927
  • Stanley Baldwin, 30 May 1930
  • Lord Halifax, 8 Jan. 1941, will take a letter to Butler's brother, will be happy to see one of the family 'after working with Rab so long'
  • two fragments signed by Stanley Baldwin and Lord Grey
Butler, Sir James Ramsay Montagu (1889-1975), knight, historian
PETH/3/61 · Item · 7 Nov. 1925
Part of Pethick-Lawrence Papers

Old Hall, Ramsden, Charlbury.—Wishes to discuss with him the War Office's reaction to his efforts to introduce proper accounting.

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Old Hall, Ramsden, Charlbury
7th Nov 1925

My dear Lawrence

I hope you are back and refreshed. During your absence I have been agitating against this reactionary move of the W.O. against proper accounting: and have so far succeeded in getting the P.A.C. to hear Sr C. Harris and Sr H. Lawrence on the other side, which I understand they will do tomorrow. I hope you will be there. I should much like to have a word with you on the matter at issue if you can spare me half an hour tomorrow, Tuesday, morning, after the Party meeting, at which I shall be. You might look at what I said, and Haldane, in the H. L. on Wednesday the 25th Nov. I am afraid Graham is completely hypnotised by Ramsay (the Aud Genl) whose view is limited, and who is a perfectly orthodox Treasury Principal Clerk. He thinks the aim of Accounts is to help him in his Audit, and that the whole W.O. new System is valueless (as it may be from that point of view) because the Military Director at the W.O. in reply to his queries, alleges “policy” in general terms as a sufficient defence of anything.

But the purpose of these proper accounts is not to render possible what is impossible, viz the enforcement of economy through queries of the Aud Genl—but to bring home to administrative officers (what they dont always want to know) what what they are doing is actually costing.

Hoping to see you

Yours sincerely
Olivier

Add. MS a/49/5 · Item · 4 Oct. 1920
Part of Additional Manuscripts a

Cloan, Auchterarder, Perthshire - Thanks him for his 'Inaugural Lecture', was interested in what he said about the University of Göttingen, and agrees that there is a border region between mathematics and metaphysics; thinks Whitehead's books of immense importance.

Add. MS c/201/43-52 · Item · 1906-24
Part of Additional Manuscripts c

Ten letters from:

  • Lord Haldane, 2 Mar. 1906, 6 July 1916
  • George Otto Trevelyan, 20 Oct. 1920, 1 Dec. 1912, 31 Jan. 1914, 16 Jan. 1923
  • Henry Montagu Butler, 30 Jan. 1914
  • Arthur C. Benson, 11, 13 June 1924
  • Montague John Rendall, 20 July 1916
Holland, Sydney George (1855-1931), 2nd Viscount Knutsford, barrister
CLIF/E1/4 · Item · 10 Aug. 1923
Part of Papers of W. K. Clifford

Cloan, Auchterarder, Perthshire.—Is reluctant to send the enclosed (E1/1-2) to Einstein, as he cannot read English and has no historical interest in his subject.

(With envelope.)

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Cloan, Auchterarder, Perthshire
10 Aug 23

Dear Mrs Clifford,

The enclosed are very precious. That is why I hesitate about sending them to Einstein. He cannot read English & he is devoid of historical interest in his subject. His genius is concentrated on the problems of the present which engross him.

I therefore think that you should keep the letter & note until someone is heard of—there is probably someone at Cambridge—who is working out the genesis of the present, historically.

I have been here for a week—reading & walking—a complete change of occupation. I hope that you will have a good holiday.

Yours sincerely {1}
Haldane

[Direction on envelope:] Mrs Clifford | 7 Chilworth Street | London W. [Redirected to Mrs Clifford] at/ Brownwich | Titchfield | Hants.

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The envelope was postmarked at Auchterarder, Perthshire, on 10 August 1923, and at Paddington on 11 August 1923, and is marked in ink ‘W.K.C | Sylvester | Haldane’ and in pencil ‘Sent to Lord Haldane suggesting he wd like the bit of W.K.C.’

{1} These two words are indistinct.

CLIF/E1/3 · Item · 22 June 1921
Part of Papers of W. K. Clifford

28 Queen Anne’s Gate, Westminster.—Has spoken with Einstein about her husband's anticipations of some of his ideas, but Einstein does not read English easily and it is of little use to send him English books.

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28 Queen Anne’s Gate, Westminster
22 June 21

Dear Mrs Clifford,

I had talk with Einstein about your husbands† genius & his anticipations of some of the ideas involved in Relativity. At these Prof. Eddington had hinted in his book, {1} which Einstein has read. But Prof. Einstein does not read English readily, & it is of little use to send him English books.

I will take my chance of finding you in at 5 on Sunday afternoon at Chilworth St.

Yours truly {2}
Haldane

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{1} Space, Time, and Gravitation (1920).

{2} These two words are indistinct.

† Sic.

TRER/46/211 · Item · 17 Jun 1914
Part of Papers of Robert Calverley Trevelyan and Elizabeth Trevelyan

The Shiffolds. - Thanks his mother for the presents: the tie and 'very nice edition of the Sonnets', which 'will be a good excuse for reading them again'. But she has got the date of his birthday wrong: he is not 42 until the 28th; as he 'never remembers the date of anyone's birthday' himself, he is not surprised. He and Bessie have just been having the 'panetti di passe' which she kindly sent them; they are very good, 'not quite the same as we used to have at Ravello, but just as good'. The Abercrombies, who are staying till Monday, liked them very much. They are 'very pleasant guests, and the company of the children is good for Julian'.

Is going to London on Friday for Charles's 'Greenwich party'. He and Bessie 'entertained 7 of the tramps last Sunday at lunch'; [the Vaughan Williamses at] 'Leith Hill Place gave lunch to Haldane and several elders'. Haldane 'walked very bravely, though deliberately'. Robert and [Lascelles] Abercrombie walked to Dorking to meet them, then they all walked 'about seven miles to Leith Hill'; the Tramps then went to Gomshall [to catch the train], 'about five more miles. It was enough for a hot thundery day'. Sends love to his father.

TRER/46/207 · Item · 9 Mar 1914
Part of Papers of Robert Calverley Trevelyan and Elizabeth Trevelyan

8 Grosvenor Crescent, S.W. - Glad to hear his father is 'getting on well' and that his mother is also well. Julian is now 'quite right again', and went to school for the first time this morning. This was 'quite a success', though 'unfortunately Miss Croft the mistress was unwell', and so although the headmistress came for a while 'there was no one to look after things most of the time, except Bessie and another parent'. Julian seems to have enjoyed it all the same, though he 'cried a little when Bessie was round at No. 14 for half an hour'. The weather is very bad, so they travelled in a taxi. Bessie is well. They 'dine at No. 14 tomorrow'.

Is glad his mother likes Parsifal [his new book, The New Parsifal; since she is 'not familiar with Wagner's opera', she might 'find some of the mythology rather obscure', but he does not think that matters. Cannot be dissatisfied with the book's reception so far; true, he has only had two reviews so far, in the Scotsman and Manchester Guardian, 'both stupid though not unfriendly', but Clutton-Brock is going to review it in the Times, and he will probably get 'a few other interesting reviews'. Has already sold 'a fair number, and a good many people seem to like it'. Is very glad his father was 'so pleased with it', will write to him soon.

George made a 'very good speech at the Tramp Dinner, after Haldane, who also spoke very well, and pleased everyone'. He has 'promised to come on a tramp some Sunday this Summer', and they will try to make him keep his promise.

TRER/12/2 · Item · 13 Oct 1891
Part of Papers of Robert Calverley Trevelyan and Elizabeth Trevelyan

Wallington, Cambo, Northumberland [headed paper, though the letter's contents suggest it is written from Glasgow]. - Hopes that Bob is comfortably settled by now. Has seen his letter to Caroline; wants him to write to him and tell him some of his impressions of Cambridge. Wants particularly to know what he will do about classics, who he will work with, and what he is reading. Is very busy; it is 'almost the first time' he has seen Glasgow in fine weather, and it is a 'wonderful city'. There is a great deal to say in public speeches at the moment. Asks Robert to write to him care of R[ichard] B[urdon] Haldane, Cloan Den, Auchterarder; this town is very famous in Scotland [for the case which led to the formation of the Free Church of Scotland?] and he wonders if Robert knows why.

MONT II/A/1/182 · Item · 20-27 Jan. 1918
Part of Papers of Edwin Montagu, Part II

In the train to Brighton.—(20th.) Her good habit of writing daily has broken down. Has received his telegram, and discusses the carpet offered to him. She dined on the day after she last wrote [11th] with Frances and Haldane, who is surprisingly ‘anti-Rufus [Lord Reading]’, cares little for Addison, and thinks Bongie ‘worse than useless’. On the Saturday [12th] she dined at Clemmie and Winston’s. Winston is eager for Montagu to return home, as he thinks he would be an ally in the Government. At the time he was worried about the threatened strike by the ASE [Amalgamated Society of Engineers]. On Sunday [13th] she played bridge at Adèle’s and dined with Duff, who had been staying with Diana Wyndham and Rosemary, with whom he is a little in love. Duff is angry with Bettine for making Eddie Grant [her husband] wait in vain for her in Paris for over two weeks. On Monday [14th] she dined at home with guests, then they went to a party at Adèle’s. Duff is no longer in love with Goonie. On Tuesday [15th] she dined with Arkers, then went to a party at Frankie de Tuyll’s. Diana has tonsillitis and has gone to Brighton. On Wednesday [16th] she dined at Cardie’s and lunched with Viola. On Thursday [17th] she dined at Lionel Earle’s, and Earle talked about his work at Windsor and in the Parks. On Friday [19th] she went to a party for Puffin at 20 Cavendish Square, and sat next to the ‘old boy’ [Asquith], who inquired kindly after Montagu. Yesterday [19th] she dined with K[atharine], and today [20th] she is going to Brighton to join Diana, Michael, Duff, Rosemary, and Diana Wyndham. She is worried the Duchess will spoil things. Olga is also on the train.

24 Queen Anne’s Gate, S.W.—(23rd.) At Brighton they all lunched at Sweetings and then went, without the Duchess, to the Aquarium. On Monday [21st] she lunched with Montagu’s mother, and ‘that foul woman’ Miss Lewis (Lily’s friend) was there. She dined at Cardie's, where it was suggested that William should go to Ireland as Ivor’s military secretary. Afterwards they went to a party at Olga’s, where Miss Barnes and Miss James sang, Hugo did stunts, and Duff ‘got off with an American pol & left the house very obviously bound for a crack’. Last night [2nd] she had a dinner-party at home, followed by stunts. Winston, who was there, seemed to enjoy himself. ‘I’m sure he yearns for fun, and Clemmie gives him none.’ Today [23rd] she went again to the VAD. Has received his telegram and replied with the measurements. Has ordered some plain carpets for the bedrooms. Is planning to furnish the hall before anything else. Oc’s leg has been amputated, and the PM has gone over to see him. This is probably the last leter she will write to India.—(24th.) Last night she dined at the de Forests', and she spent today at Taplow. Ettie is very unhappy about Patrick. Bluey has come back from America but is very ill with blood-poisoning. K has gone to visit him at Liverpool. Has bought a chest of drawers and given the housemaid notice.—(27th.) Has received his letter; he seems to have got off well with Lady Ronaldshay. Bluey has recovered slightly. Yesterday she bought some furniture, and Duffy and Diana came to dinner.

MONT II/A/1/175 · Item · 20 Oct.-9 Nov. 1917
Part of Papers of Edwin Montagu, Part II

In the train from Folkestone.—(20 Oct.) Has learnt of his safe arrival at Boulogne. Hopes that Alan and Kisch will prove more competent than expected.

[24 Queen Anne’s Gate, S.W.]—Is depressed at having to spend the winter without him, despite the prospect of arranging Breccles. Reflects on their relationship and plans. After he left she and Viola went shopping, and she saw a sideboard she liked. Has dealt with some correspondence.—(Later.) Diana has visited. Is going to the opera.—(21 Oct.) Discusses her visit to the opera last night. This morning she went to Arlington Street [the Rutland Hospital], lunched with Diana and the Duchess, drove to Bushey in a vain attempt to meet Duff, and dined at Arlington Street for a ‘working reading aloud evening’. She intends to go to the hospital every morning, but will go away if the air-raids are bad.—[Later.] They read again in the evening.—(22 Oct.) Has received two notes from him. She went to Arlington Street and lunched at the Bath [Club]. Goonie is bored by having Jack home. Has ordered some things for the house.—(23 Oct.) She lunched with friends, including Masterton, who reported the rumour of a new coalition including ‘the old bird’ [Asquith], then went to South Kensington to show Diana David Garrick’s bed, which she is thinking of copying for Montagu. She dined and went to the opera with Bluey, and they discussed sapphism. Has had no news about letting the house.—(24 Oct.) After the hospital she went to the Bath, and to the House of Lords. Gives an account of the debate [on the situation in India]. In the evening she went to a play with Viola. Has let the house and bought the sideboard.—(25 Oct.) She dined with Cardie for Rawle’s farewell party, then went to a party at Lady Howard’s, which included Hugo Rumbold, who she is ‘crazy’ about, and Teddie Gerard, who enchanted Winston.—[26 Oct.] Has learnt of Montagu’s arrival at Port Said and has received his letter from Modane. She went to the Bath, where Clemmie was ‘very typical’ about Winston and Teddie. Some friends are dining with her, and they may go to the opera afterwards.—(27 Oct.) Only some of her guests went to the opera last night; she stayed in talking till late with the others. After Arlington Street she went shopping and to lunch with Katherine and Diana. Later she may go to Arlington Street for a ‘working reading evening’. Has received his letter from Rome and eagerly awaits his diary. The house has not, after all, been let.—(28 Oct.) She went to Bushey with Diana and Michael Herbert to see Duff, and dined with Diana and Edward, who has just come home on ‘Mells fire leave’ [Mells Park had been destroyed by fire on the 11th].—(29 Oct.) After the hospital and the Bath they lunched with Edward, after which Venetia took him to Lucile’s, where they found Viola choosing dresses for her new part. She got home to find Phyllis there, having turned out by her father for throwing a hair-brush at him. Rib writes to her daily, but they are trying to persuade her that he must marry her or stop seeing her. There was an abortive air-raid warning.—(30 Oct.) Edward has fallen in love with Phyllis. She lunched with friends, and Hugo Rumbold, who is probably another of Phyllis’s lovers, came to tea. Has received a telegram from Cairo and has heard that Montagu’s party has already broken up into groups. Some friends are dining with her tonight. Is appalled by the household expenses.—(31 Oct.) Her dinner went well, but she and Diana got into an argument with Edward. She had lunch with friends at home. Phyllis has told Ribblesdale that she will have to stop seeing him if he does not mean to marry her, but it is unlikely that her good intentions will last. Diana said to Phyllis that her mind had been corrupted by Scatters, and later Ribblesdale asked Phyllis whether she had ever slept with him, ‘which she had the sense to deny’. Lutyens brought her Blow’s plans [of Breccles], but as they are not of the house as it is now she will have to go down there to correct them. Is going to the opera.

Train to Breccles.—(1 Nov.) Was kept awake by an air-raid. Is on the way to meet Horner.

[24 Queen Anne’s Gate, S.W.]—(2 Nov.) She did a lot of business with Horner at Breccles and planted some bulbs. Lutyens will probably come next time.—(3 Nov.) Has had no letter from him for a week, but has replied to his telegram. She played bridge this evening, and yesterday dined with friends and went to a play. Phyllis has gone to Arkers; her relationship with Lord Ribblesdale is still unsettled. Today she lunched with Maud and they went to the opera. Eric says Lloyd George is worried about the effect of the air-raids on public opinion.—(4 Nov.) She spent the day at Taplow. Ettie was on good form.—(5 Nov.) She went to Charing Cross [Hospital] again this morning and found it squalid, but she will only be going there two mornings a week. She had tea with friends and dined and went to a play with Duff, who starts his career at Chelsea Barracks on Monday. Phyllis is dining with Edward, Rib, and Arkers, and as the Viceroy is in London she will probably not come back tonight. Edward is still in love with her, but Venetia doesn’t know whether he has seduced her yet.—(6 Nov.) She lunched with Diana, Duffy, and Edward. Edward and Diana are reconciled. She is giving a dinner tonight. Hugo Wemyss has gone to Paris as Flavia Forbes has been bitten by a mad dog. He is corresponding acrimoniously with Lord Derby about Lady Angela [Forbes], who has been asked to leave France on account of alleged drunkenness.—(8 Nov.) Margot and the ‘old Boy’ [Asquith] were at Hazel’s party last night and asked after Montagu, but Vizee gave her (Venetia) a sour look; she and Bongie are the only ones who have said nothing about Montagu having gone [to India]. Has received his letter from Port Said [B1/144a]. She lunched with Winston and Clemmie, went to see Gladys, then played bridge at Lady Essex’s. Tonight she and Phyllis are dining with the McKennas and then going to a party at the Baroness’s.—(9 Nov.) Has seen his mother and shown her his typed notes [his ‘Diary’]. Phyllis leaves tomorrow.

MONT II/A/1/162 · Item · 16 June 1916
Part of Papers of Edwin Montagu, Part II

The Manor House, Mells, Frome.—Thanks him for his letter and telegram; it doesn’t matter about Frida. She gathers that Montagu did not stay with Bill, and that his expedition was rather unsuccessful. Has been shopping in Frome. Asks whether he minds others coming with them to Dorchester. Haldane has heard that Lloyd George is going to the War Office. Asks him to telegraph the time of his arrival at Salisbury.

TRER/46/111 · Item · 20 Dec 1905
Part of Papers of Robert Calverley Trevelyan and Elizabeth Trevelyan

La Fortezza, Aulla, Lunigiana. - He and Bessie are 'comfortably settled in this castle' which is a real one: he is not mistaking a hotel for a castle like Don Quixote. Describes the surrounding countryside. The Waterfields have been here for almost a year; gives details of the building and its history. He and Bessie are well, though have had bad colds recently. Hopes his parents are enjoying their time in Rome; had thought they would return for the election; everything seems to be going well [for the Liberal Party] so far. Hopes Charles may still get an appointment; is sure he would deserve it. Haldane at the War Office is 'rather comic', but he 'may just be the right man for the job'.

Jebb's death is 'very sad'; Robert had little opportunity to see him, but the one time he heard him talking at length, he thought him 'delightful'. Bessie sends love and will write soon. Robert is 'well started' on his work again; thinks this place will be as good for wriring as Ravello.