Mountside, Guildford. - Very much enjoyed his 'little stay' with the Trevelyans'; thanks Trevelyan's wife for 'all the trouble she took' to make him comfortable. Very glad to spend some time with Goldie [Lowes Dickinson]; is sure he must miss his sister Janet very much. Meant to ask Trevelyan about some books on Shelley, in whom he is currently very interested, but with his 'usual presence of mind, forgot!'.
In two hands: R. C. Trevelyan's on one side, a copy of the hand on the other side (probably G. Lowes Dickinson's). Authors listed: Schiller; William James; Bergson; James Ward; George Moore; Henry Sidgwick; Edward Carpenter; as well as the Hibbert Journal.
Chhatarpur. - Thanks Trevelyan for his 'kind letter of the 10th'; it is only because of Trevelyan's own 'kind nature and good-heartedness' that he makes 'so much of what little I did'. In turn, thanks Trevelyan for the present of his brother [George]'s Garibaldi and the Thousand.
Very glad to hear that Dickinson is now 'quite fit to go on with his long & distant journey'. Their best wishes go with both Trevelyan and Dickinson, and Forster, and they all hope they will 'fully enjoy' their travels. 'You know that H. H. [the Maharaja] likes & loves nothing better in the world than the society of cultured English gentlemen. I can say that from my personal experiences of the last 19 years that I have been with him. He missed your company very much - in fact he was very much depressed after you left'. It was not until 'long after that the loneliness & monotony of his life was somewhat relieved by a visit from Miss Cohen and her brother' but they could only stay a couple of days and left for Gwalior. Showed Trevelyan's letter to the Maharaja, who 'was very much impressed with what you said therein about your visit to Chhatarpur & the hospitality of its ruler'; the Maharaja has received Trevelyan's letter to him 'from the jungles of Salim' and will reply soon. He 'read it and re-read it in my presence and was much impressed. He was also very glad to hear that you met Sir Theodore [Morison], whom he he is going to see at Patna or Lucknow'. The 'Hon. A. G. G. [Assistant Governor General?] is due at Chhatarpur om his official tour about 20 Feb., and the Maharaja cannot fix a definite date [to see Morison] until that tour is over.
Is glad to hear that Nanhu Mal was useful to them at Benares. Notes that Bob finds 'the Persian alphabet very troublesome', but thinks if he takes it seriously he 'won't find it so unmanageable in the long run': hopes he will 'soon get over the difficulty' so that soon Haq will 'have the pleasure to correspond with you in Persian language & quote Persian poets'. Had a 'very kind letter from Mr Forster' recently, who seems to have 'very pleasant recollections' of his visit to Chhatarpur'.
Yesterday was a public holiday [] and the Maharaja 'held a dunbar last night to offer thanks to the Almighty on this happy occasion'. The Maharaja has 'entered into a singular correspondence with Dr. Carpenter [perhaps Edward Carpenter?] & has received many of his books of late'; has also had Dickinson and Forster's books 'direct from England' and is 'much interested in all these books': Haq always finds him with one in his hand. The Diwan told Haq recently that he had received [Trevelyan's father's] Life of Macaulay from Trevelyan.
Wonders if Trevelyan [and his friends?] 'can induce H. H. to visit England - It is sure to do him much good from every point of view'; he himself is 'only his servant & my solicitations in this respect can therefore be of very little avail'.
Asks to be remembered to Mr Dickinson.
London; addressed to Trevelyan at Copse Cottage, Fernhurst, near Haslemere. - Thanks Trevelyan for his letter and for sending the Browning volumes: he had 'rather hankered' after "Paracelsus". Had less luck with the 'Cambridge Pictures', but feels his way of taking them might have spoiled Trevelyan's fun. He did meet and befriend Edward Carpenter at Cambridge, however.
St. Keyne's Cambridge. Dated 23 March 1913 - Thanks him for his kind letter [about 'The Belief in Immortality'], which will help him 'bear with equanimity the thunder of the theological guns when they open fire on me'; declines the offer to send the book with the statistics of the weight of the soul [Duncan McDougall quoted in Edward Carpenter's 'Drama of Love and Death']; declines the invitation to visit, does not want to leave his wife. With a typescript footnote identifying Frazer's book.
Strafford House, Aldeburgh, Suffolk. Dated 21/3/13 - Thanks him for ['The Belief in Immortality'] and suggests another map of the land of shades, and cites Duncan MacDougall's work on the weight of the soul in a book by Edward Carpenter; suggests he meet Sir Mortimer Durand while he visits, an authority on Oriental customs and ideas; was pleased to see his tribute to [Andrew] Lang.
Kings Coll. Camb. - Thanks Bessie for a delightful visit. Found [Edward ] Carpenter 'a sad wreck'; Ted [Edward Inigan] is 'devotion itself'; they have moved to Inglenook. Went with Margery [Fry?] to see Bridges, who was very well and pleased with his new poem ["The Testament of Beauty"].
'as from W[est] H[ackhurst] (actually on the way to River)'; postmarked Putney. - Not sure when he can see Trevelyan, as he will be busy with a talk on E[dward] Carpenter and a five day conference on 'the Economic and Spiritual Future of Mankind' [the P.E.N. Areopagitica].
Reports that he has that day heard from Leeds, Bradford, Keighley and Halifax, who had a joint meeting on the previous Friday, and outlined their requirements in relation to lectures and lecturers; Political Economy for Leeds and Halifax, Physical Geography for Leeds and Halifax, and Constitutional History for Bradford and Reighley. Leeds also wants a third subject, i.e., astronomy, and 'expects Wakefield to join [on] and ask for astronomy'. Discusses their course needs in more detail. Refers to [Edward] Carpenter, of Trinity Hall. Mentions that Stoke upon Trent want Physical Geography after Christmas and talks of sending Sollas there rather than keeping him at Halifax. Mentions that [Herbert?] Foxwell 'wants to go during the Lent term'. Asks Sidgwick for his opinion on what they should do in relation to the arrangement of lectures. Suggests sending [Bonser] to lecture for the October term. Asks Sidgwick to take the letter to Browne to see what he says. Asks if [Bonser] will be in Cambridge the following week. Thinks he will return there himself the following Saturday, if he is able. Reports that he has only been out in the garden yet, but is steadily, but slowly, getting better. Announces that he is going to meet the Liverpool Committee on the following day.
13a Hanover Terrace, Ladbroke Grove, W.11. - Asks if Bessie could send for him to Gomshall rather than Ockley, as he would like to visit Edward Carpenter at Guildford. Discusses arrangements.
Millthorpe, Holmesfield, near Sheffield.—Declines to join the National Council for Adult Suffrage, and explains why.
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Millthorpe, Holmesfield, near Sheffield
12 Oct 1916
Dear Mrs. Pethick-Lawrence
Do excuse my long delay in replying to yours of the 28th ult:, but I find it very difficult to keep up with my correspondence!
Of course I remember you very well and have often wished to meet you again, but our paths do not often cross.
With regard to the Adult Suffrage question, though I certainly favour it for Men in this Country I am quite doubtful whether it is wise to open the Vote out so rapidly & suddenly for Women—who so far have had little or no experience in the matter, and of whom we have so little experience as to how they will act. Considering the enormous preponderance of Women in numbers, combined with the fact that the mass of women at present (and in this Country) are so easily swept up, as one’s experience shows, by any specious and glib-tongued man(!)—as by clergymen, ministers, titled folk and the like—and might easily with a little scheming be taken in flocks to the polls—I think the experiment on the proposed scale is at least a little rash.
Of course I am speaking of the working class women I know, up here in the North, and of the middle class women generally. What I say does not apply to the ‘advanced’ women—but then what proportion are they of the population—1/10th or 1/100th or 1/1000th?
I should feel quite differently in the U.S. for instance where the general level of alertness & education is greatly different from here; and I have a good hope that even here the rising tide may make the universal suffrage feasible in what people call “the near future”—but you see I am cautious, and think we ought to hasten slowly.
At any rate you understand that though I appreciate much the invitation to join the National Council for A.S. I do not feel at present disposed to do so. Though I wish the movement all success—esp[ecia]lly in its educative rôle—I do not feel drawn just now to give my time & energy to it.
Excuse my rather hasty & halting explanations, and with the expression of my gratitude to you for the good work you are doing in the cause of Democracy—believe me
Yours very sincerely
Edw[ar]d Carpenter
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Letters omitted from words abbreviated by superscript letters have been supplied in square brackets.